Can someone maybe give me a tierlist of all warframes please ? I havent touched this game in a long time and it would be pretty nice ^
Malaheart·1y
For the most part, all frames are viable. The shield gate change went a long way to close the gap between caster and tank frames. So just pick the one you think is the coolest.
If you're insistent, the youtuber Brozime did pretty decent video ranking the frames about 2 months ago. I don't know the sub rules, so I'm not going to link the video. He covers why they are good and what niche they fill.
If you just want to know the top tier frames: Octavia, inaros, Mesa, Nezha, Gara, Nova, Rhino, Saryn, wisp, ivara, nekros, and Trinity. Nyx and maybe Chroma are the only frames I'd say stay away from.6Reply
ChristopherKlay·1y
While he definitely has some good points, his tierlist - just like pretty much any other - isn't a "this is it" case, it's a "this is how i feel about them" one.
I mean, let's be honest; The majority doesn't see Volt on a B+, while Hydroid is a B-..4Reply1 more reply
anarchy753·1y
Also Nekros as a top tier frame? The only time anyone ever picks him is to go AFK while farming a resource. He is literally nothing beyond the "more loot" frame.
-n-k-·1y
The game is literally a looter shooter. The "more loot" frame is therefore important, that's the only reason he's A.
Same with Chroma, he is only A because he's so important to a lot of stuff. If DE keeps adding enemies that are immune to abilities, then the frames that can buff themselves and pump out lots of raw damage become more important [keep in mind that this was before Warframe Revised].
anarchy753·1y
Except that with every patch Nekros gets less and less relevant. Most stuff released these days is based on rotation rewards, or boss drops that can't be desecrated, not drops from enemies. Hell even as far back as open worlds most of the valuable resources have been put into mining and fishing that also can't be touched.
He's a really early-mid game frame, where you're early enough that you aren't swimming in resources which happens extremely quickly. Beyond that he becomes more of a liability with how little damage and tangible survivability he brings compared to any other frame, so much that he becomes completely outclassed by a kubrow that can do his job almost as well, and a kavat that does his job better, neither of which requires wasting your whole frame on a single ability.
The only times I can legitimately remember Nekros being relevant since I started 3 years ago can be counted on one hand; condition overload, mutagen samples, and toroids before orb fights were available.
-n-k-·1y
Eh, you kinda have a point [he became very relevant again for Shedu parts, but then DE released Scarlet Spear], but I have bones to pick.
little damage
Weapons, or if you're in a farming party, the dps will do the damage.
tangible survivability
Health Conversion or Shield of Shadows.
he becomes completely outclassed by a kubrow that can do his job almost as well
Almost? Retrieve works on one enemy every 10 seconds. Nekros consumes 3 corpses per second. Retrieve is almost useless since you'll have dozens of dead enemies and their corpses despawn in 5-15 seconds.
a kavat that does his job better
If you mean Charm's double resource buff, that doesn't do Nekros's job, it does something completely different, and it only works on resources, and it's only active around 25% of the time. And you can combine it with Nekros.
ChristopherKlay·1y
The game is literally a looter shooter. The "more loot" frame is therefore important, that's the only reason he's A.
Seeing that other frames have higher loot buffs, that highlights even more why he shouldn't be A in the first place.
-n-k-·1y
Except percentage chance isn't everything. Hydroid may have 100%, but he has to grab the enemies with his tentacles, which doesn't work that well in practice. Khora only has 65%, but she's so much better than Hydroid, and actually I don't agree with Brozime, I think Khora is better than Nekros too [he gave her A-]. Nekros may only have 54%, but he desecrates all the corpses in a huge area. In the end, he'll give you the most loot.
ChristopherKlay·1y
Nekros gives you the most loot, if you don't actively go for it; Correct.
In every single situation where you farm something specific with a setup, you farm a specific kind of enemy, or even just a specific spot with friends, Khora is going to give you more loot. Just like Hydroid is massively better for specific targets, or when farming resources at lower levels.
But that wasn't really my point. My point is more that a frame that's widely considered worthless outside of a single specific job [loot] and pretty much one of the top candidates for a entire ability/kit rework shouldn't be placed anywhere even remotely close to a frame like Volt that's top tier in several categories from focus farming to eidolon hunting to speed running tons of stuff.
Which is why i said his tierlist isn't a "these are the frames, ranked by how much use you get out of them" or anything, it's literally just a "this is is how i would subjectively rank them".
Overall tierlists make very little sense for a game like warframe. I mean, do we make tierlists for every single type of mission now? Because Hydroid isn't gonna hit that A in pretty much all of them, outside of 2-3 game modes at a specific level.
batuuu22·1y
Thank you brother ! Really appreciate it !
HotPotatoWithCheese·1y
Honestly, I'd replace inaros with nidus. I do play inaros when i want an easy tank that never dies but nidus brings much more to the table imo. Inaros' only great ability is his 1 with the instakill finisher hp recovery. Sandstorm eats energy and just makes it harder for allies to kill enemies while slowing you down and taking away your weapons and agility, devour is useless and does no damage and if you manage to get a clone then it is almost like it isn't even there. You don't even need his ult.
Nidus on the other hand has great survivability too but has a 1 that does crazy damage at high stacks, parasitic link for even more tanking, a budget bastille that is great for clearing mobs and a good AoE ult for defence. He can take the damage, dish out damage that inaros can only dream of and is actually useful to the team with his AoE's while inaros is a more selfish frame. The ash of the tank frames if you will.
The lack of good inaros abilities is a pretty common complaint. He's easy to survive with but 3 out of 4 of his abilities aren't necessary/are useless as opposed to nidus' entire kit that is good.2 more replies
malk600·1y
All frames are viable, the ones that do well at a specific task still do well at a specific task.2Reply