Sony 24 70 f4 lens review năm 2024
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This lens seems to get mixed reviews, with some reviewers really trashing this lens nd then others saying they dont understand the criticism as their copy seems fine. I did once try a used copy in store and compare it to my copy of an FE35mm 1.8, and stopped down I couldn't see much of a difference tbh. Show Sony a7 IV Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D Nikon AF Nikkor 180mm f/2.8D ED-IF Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1,4/35 Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1,4/85 +15 more QuietOC • Veteran Member • Posts: 7,154 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 28, 2022 1 Bijo Sam wrote: This lens seems to get mixed reviews, with some reviewers really trashing this lens nd then others saying they dont understand the criticism as their copy seems fine. I did once try a used copy in store and compare it to my copy of an FE35mm 1.8, and stopped down I couldn't see much of a difference tbh. The early Sony E-mount lenses had quality issues and might still. The copy I tried wasn't well aligned. I didn't like the handling of the lens, so I haven't tried another copy. It was pretty good at 35mm--especially compared to the 24-105 G. It was also better than the old film zooms I have. It had minimal breathing and was fairly parfocal. It should be a good lens if you find a well-aligned copy and like handling it. It may not be the most durable lens. Sony does claim it is "dust and moisture-resistant." It is one of those lenses where Sony forces Distortion Compensation to always be enabled. It has a bunch of pincushion distortion. Pentax Q7 Sony a7R IV NEX-5T Sony a77 II Sony DT 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 +103 more Nusratty • Regular Member • Posts: 279 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 28, 2022 no not a bad lens at all. i liked mine, only got rid of it because i needed the cash for a new camera body and i kind of regret it now. Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 28, 2022 It’s the reason I didn’t switch to Sony when I first went mirrorless several years ago. Everything is relative. Pretty much any lens sold today will look pretty decent stopped down in the center. That is setting the bar low but if that is all you need then sure the 24-70/4 will do. Just be aware there are plenty of better options often at better price points. Sony a1 Sony a7R V Sony a6700 Sony a7C II Sony a7CR +18 more Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 28, 2022 7 Bijo Sam wrote: This lens seems to get mixed reviews, The lens came with a Zeiss badge, the price was a bit stiff and image quality in the center area was actually better than the Canon and Nikon equivalents. But the corners were weaker. And suddenly bashing about those corners got Internet got into hyperspeed. Have compared my (favourably reviewed) 4/24-105 G with several copies of the 4/24-70 and there is not that much difference actually, besides the more busy extreme corners. with some reviewers really trashing this lens That is fun! nd then others saying they dont understand the criticism as their copy seems fine. That is boring! I did once try a used copy in store and compare it to my copy of an FE35mm 1.8, and stopped down I couldn't see much of a difference tbh. I still keep my Zony 4/24-70 because it is a very small, compact and light weight lens. And the real life images taken with this lens look just fine. Those who are dissatisfied complain: About the price (and do not get that fast and silent focus motors and great build quality cost money too). Or the extreme corners (and miss the point that only a fool place the area of interest in the extrene corner of an image). Or do pixel peeping at 200 % (most likely because they want to feel lousy). Those who love the lens take photographs. Lots of photographs. Great photographs. UncleVanya • Senior Member • Posts: 1,335 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 28, 2022 1 It’s all relative. The lens is not up to current market trends in corner sharpness. However it is light and handles well and has good center sharpness. Stopped down to f8 or f11 it has good corners but not as good as the center. Most of the time you won’t notice. The high res bodies 42mp and above may show more softness than the 24mp ones. My dad owns a copy and I shoot the 24-105. We have toyed with swapping for a while but it hasn’t happened. I have a 28-70 I use when I need light and small and stopped down it works well also. I think that if I have to stop down to get the quality I need that the cost makes the ZA lens less attractive. Sony RX100 VI Pentax K100D Pentax K100D Super Pentax K-3 Sony a6300 +42 more psartman • Regular Member • Posts: 432 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 28, 2022 2 It's a great little lens, its reputation is the victim of internet piling-on by pixel peepers. I produced a book and exhibition prints over four years, involved a lot of walking with one body and that lens. I sold mine because I wanted the extra reach of the 24-105, and I regret it. There is nothing else on the market as compact, versatile and well-built. The optical quality really shows in the flare-resistance and overall sharpness (yes, corners at 24mm are a little soft, only noticeable at high magnification.) It would be great if Sony focused future updates on compact gear- make this lens water-resistant and add up-to-date autofocus tech. But it's fine as-is. Sony a7R II Sony a7R IV Sony FE 28mm F2 Samyang AF 75mm F1.8 FE Sony FE 20-70mm F4 G +2 more Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 29, 2022 1 Bijo Sam wrote: This lens seems to get mixed reviews, with some reviewers really trashing this lens nd then others saying they dont understand the criticism as their copy seems fine. I did once try a used copy in store and compare it to my copy of an FE35mm 1.8, and stopped down I couldn't see much of a difference tbh. i personally dont think its bad too but after playing with the 28-60mm kit lens from A7c, i think it is tough to choose the 24-70 f4 over the 28-60 especially so when its so cheap small and light. 24 vs 28 could be another consideration. I was deliberating getting the 2470f4 + 1635f4 for a point in time and found both to be fine and accpetable when i tried it. Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 29, 2022 I have an older one that I got with my original A7r MK1 (using it now on my new A7iv). I've dragged it around the world, on hikes, all kinds of stuff. Is it the best lens ever? No, but the weight to quality ratio works for me. I think in general it's a pretty good lens for a zoom. FWIW, my other lenses for travel are MF primes and the 24-70 works for me as what i bring when i'm feeling lazy. I am tempted by the new 2.8 though.... Sony a7 IV Zeiss Loxia 21mm F2.8 Sony FE 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 +1 more Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? 1 CentralSquared wrote: I have an older one that I got with my original A7r MK1 (using it now on my new A7iv). I've dragged it around the world, on hikes, all kinds of stuff. Is it the best lens ever? No, but the weight to quality ratio works for me. I think in general it's a pretty good lens for a zoom. +1 Am in exactly the same boat. Got the 4/24-70. Gave it away when I got the 4/24-105. Got me another 4/24-70 because less bulk and weight. Ok lens actually. FWIW, my other lenses for travel are MF primes and the 24-70 works for me as what i bring when i'm feeling lazy. I am tempted by the new 2.8 though.... Same here. What is a bit too tempting is the compact package, the close focus ability and the fact that the GM II is better than the 4/24-70 does not hurt too much. Try hard to resist but knowing myself the 2.8/24-70 GM II gravitates unavoidably towards my camera mounts... Foto4x4 • Veteran Member • Posts: 4,064 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • Apr 29, 2022 1 Best I can say about this lens is its, okay, it’s small and light, and when released there weren’t any real other options. I bought one and it was better than the kit. But disappointing overall. Mine has long gone… Never missed it. These days, there are so many better lenses to consider. Small and light… Sigma 28-70 DG DN. An incredibly sharp lens that I’d buy if I didn’t have covered elsewhere. Only drawback is it starts at 28mm but I’m now used to that and have the wide end covered elsewhere too. -- hide signature -- Cheers, John Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? UncleVanya wrote: It’s all relative. The lens is not up to current market trends in corner sharpness. However it is light and handles well and has good center sharpness. Stopped down to f8 or f11 it has good corners but not as good as the center. Most of the time you won’t notice. The high res bodies 42mp and above may show more softness than the 24mp ones. My dad owns a copy and I shoot the 24-105. We have toyed with swapping for a while but it hasn’t happened. I have a 28-70 I use when I need light and small and stopped down it works well also. I think that if I have to stop down to get the quality I need that the cost makes the ZA lens less attractive. Lens is great but for the price get a tamron 28-75 f2.8 that is far more modern optical design. Sony zeiss are nice lenses. I love the feel with all metal. I use the 16-35 and 50mm planar for cityspace and love the results. OP Bijo Sam • Contributing Member • Posts: 657 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Foto4x4 • May 1, 2022 I picked one of these up today for $500. Its still new, I bought it from a guy who bought it as part of a promotion where it came with the camera and he wanted to sell it to make some money back. I thought about using this as an urban landscape, travel and architecture lens during daylight hours. So far I am unimpressed, its definitely not up to todays standards. AF is slow and it seemed to struggle with face and eye detection especially with multiple people in the frame. On the positive side once it acquires focus it doesn't hunt like a few 3rd party lenses I have tried. I like the colors coming out of it (this was the main reason I got it). Sharpness by todays standards is lacking as per reviews. I knew it wasn’t going to be the sharpest lens but I am willing to concede sharpness for the oss, size, colors and rendering. I will make a short trip with this lens to test its capabilities for urban settings and travel in good lighting. I will probably end up selling it and getting the 28-60 unless it gives me a few keepers. Sony a7 IV Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D Nikon AF Nikkor 180mm f/2.8D ED-IF Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1,4/35 Carl Zeiss Planar T* 1,4/85 +15 more psartman • Regular Member • Posts: 432 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? 2 A lens released in 2013 IS a "modern optical design". Get some perspective. There may have been improvements in autofocus tech, but the technology of computer-aided design, glass types, manufacturing, coatings, etc. have not made any significant leaps within the last decade. Sony a7R II Sony a7R IV Sony FE 28mm F2 Samyang AF 75mm F1.8 FE Sony FE 20-70mm F4 G +2 more Foto4x4 • Veteran Member • Posts: 4,064 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • May 2, 2022 1 Getting that 28-60 isn’t a bad idea at all. I bought one a couple months ago for a small and light alternate to my 28-200 and it’s pretty darn good. Certainly good enough on my A7RIII for what I got it for. Cheap too. Sure, it’s slow, a bit clumsy with the collapse ring and no OSS, but since I use it at f5.6 most of the time, and so tiny, it’s easy to carry in a corner of any bag for an emergency. And way sharper than anything my old 24-70/f4 could do. I don’t think this is too bad considering its hand held, 1/10s, f22, ISO50 to get some water blur. It’s also downsized from 6000x4000 by the upload from iPad to DPR which is a pain. Still despite a little diffraction, if you look at the corners it’s pretty much sharper than I ever got from my 24-70/f4Z. -- hide signature -- Cheers, John QuietOC • Veteran Member • Posts: 7,154 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to psartman • May 2, 2022 1 psartman wrote: A lens released in 2013 IS a "modern optical design". Get some perspective. There may have been improvements in autofocus tech, but the technology of computer-aided design, glass types, manufacturing, coatings, etc. have not made any significant leaps within the last decade. The smoothness of aspherical elements has significantly improved according to Sony. The ZA's tend to show onion rings in out-of-focus highlights. Pentax Q7 Sony a7R IV NEX-5T Sony a77 II Sony DT 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 +103 more SNJops • Regular Member • Posts: 383 Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Bijo Sam • May 2, 2022 I used to own the lens and I found it soft even on 24mp. Others may find it fits their needs but it could definitely do with an update. Leica M10 Sony a7R IV Sony FE 200-600 F5.6-6.3 Sigma 24-70 F2.8 DG DN Sony FE 12-24mm F2.8 GM +5 more Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? Tristimulus wrote: Yeah, I feel the same, although I know that when I travel I'm not sure I'd even want to drag the new one around. I kinda want to see what it feels like in person first. I also know that any of my primes will deliver a lot more than either of these zooms - cv 40/1.2, a zeiss 50/2 m-mount planar and a couple of other adapted primes). TBH, for city travel I'd have a Leica m10 or 11 if I could afford it. I love rangefinders... Sony a7 IV Zeiss Loxia 21mm F2.8 Sony FE 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 +1 more Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? In reply to Nusratty • 2 months ago The Sony Zeiss 24-70 F4 lens stands as one of the most disappointing lenses I've encountered in my decade-long photography journey. Its perspective distortion is egregious, the focus lacks the desired sharpness, and the color reproduction is downright horrendous on a Sony full-frame body. Priced at nearly $1200 in Australia, it comes with a sleek design but fails to justify its cost with lackluster performance, despite bearing the prestigious blue Zeiss badge. This lens is a stain on the Zeiss name and the brand's reputation as a whole. Engaging with local camera enthusiasts, I discovered that many share my sentiments. They, too, have leased out this lens, encountering issues with distortion and questioning its colour reproduction capabilities. I might add that most lenses made in collaboration with Zeiss for Sony system are bit of a let down in terms the optical quality. It's disheartening that a lens associated with Zeiss, a brand synonymous with optical excellence, has spurred forum threads questioning its quality. Nikon Coolpix 995 Fujifilm X-T20 Canon EOS RP Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM Tamron SP 24-70mm F2.8 Di VC USD +6 more Re: Is the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm F4 that bad of a lens? 2 The Sony Zeiss 24-70 F4 lens stands as one of the most disappointing lenses I've encountered in my decade-long photography journey. Its perspective distortion is egregious .... Perspective distortion has nothing to do with the lens; it is solely a function of the geometric relationship between the camera and the subject. And any lens reviewer blaming a lens for perspective distortion has thereby lost a good bit of credibility. the focus lacks the desired sharpness Focusing errors and lack of sharpness are two different things. And focusing errors are mostly due to the camera or the photographer, not the lens. If you want to take focusing out of the variables, choose a static subject, but the camera on a sturdy tripod, set manual focus, and use maximum-magnified live view to manually focus. When focused correctly, IMO / IME sharpness is okay for the more moderate-resolution bodies (e.g. 24 or 33 MP on FF). If you want to get full resolution out of a 60 MP sensor, then it's better to look elsewhere. and the color reproduction is downright horrendous on a Sony full-frame body. Not my experience, least shooting raw and converting in DxO PhotoLab. Admittedly my experience is somewhat limited, having only rented the lens for a bit. Priced at nearly $1200 in Australia Ah, there is the problem. IMO the Zony 24-70mm f/4 would be a reasonable option if Sony dropped the regular list price to about $600 U.S. ($912 AUD at today's exchange rate) and took off the Zeiss badge. At that point it would be a 'step up from the 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 kit lens' option that would make sense for some people / some uses. 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We case our eye over the options costing more than $2500 but less than $4000, to find the best all-rounder. Is Sony 24 70 F4 good?In terms of critical sharpness, the Sony 24-70mm f/4 lens is impressive, and while it can't quite match the fixed-focal-length FE lenses, particularly at the edges, it is an improvement over the Sony 28-70mm F3. 5-5.6 OSS kit lens. Is Sony 24 70 F4 full frame?Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm F4 ZA OSS Full-frame Zoom Lens. This compact full-frame Carl Zeiss mid-range zoom lens covers a 24mm to 70mm range with a constant maximum aperture of F4, enabling consistent exposure settings at any focal length. Is the Sony 24 105 F4 worth it?It has been around for a few years, but remains a high performing optic. With its relatively compact and lightweight build, impressive resistance to flare, and consistently sharp performance at all focal lengths, the FE 24-105 F4 G OSS deserves to be among our best Sony E-mount lenses. What is a 24Portrait photography: The 24-70mm lens can capture stunning wide-angle portraits as well as full-body poses and tight headshots. It'll also prevent you from needing to change lenses while shooting. Imagine the flow and the connection you can maintain with your subject without pausing to swap glass. |
